The Thinking General

Posted by on Jun 22, 2014 in Uncategorized | 4 comments

The Thinking General

Born in Pacitan, East Java in September 1949, Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono celebrated his fifty-fifth birthday a few weeks before his inauguration as Indonesia’s sixth President. He was the only child of an army noncommissioned officer in the Brawijaya territorial organization, Raden Soekotjo, and maternal grandson to the founder of the local Tremas Pesantren (a Nahdlatul Ulamaboarding school). Known as “Sus” or Bambang to friends, he was cadet corps commander and top graduate from his 1973 academy class. Yudhoyono was engaged to and later married Military Academy Governor Major General Sarwo Edhie Wibowo’s well-educated and charming daughter, Kristiani Herawati (Ani). Fatefully thrown into the national spotlight during the 1965-1966 crisis, as Army Commando Regiment (RPKAD) Commander Sarwo Edhie had led the massacre of communists on Java and Bali, laying a bloody foundation for Soeharto’s New Order. Marriage into the legendary (some would say notorious) general’s family reinforced the young officer’s Javanese sense of destiny.

Yudhoyono reportedly wanted to follow his father-in-law into the red berets. Since no officers from the 1973 class were commissioned into the Special Forces, he opted for the green berets and served exclusively in Kostrad units until posted to Army Headquarters in 1981. Recognized as bright and capable, his early career suffered, ironically, due to his status as Sarwo Edhie’s son-in-law. Soeharto insiders Ali Moertopo, Yoga Sugomo and Benny Moerdani held a grudge against the popular and charismatic red beret. As Armed Forces Commander, Moerdani allegedly had Yudhoyono sidelined to unimportant positions. Sarwo Edhie died in November 1989. With patronage from Generals Edi Sudrajat and Feisal Tanjung, Yudhoyono’s career took off after Benny Moerdani departed the scene in the early-1990s. The two red beret generals were sympathetic to Sarwo Edhie’s plight and recognized his son-in-law had been treated unfairly.

After graduating from the Army Staff and Command School (Seskoad) in 1989, once more at the top of his class, Yudhoyono was selected to attend the U.S. Army Command and General Staff College. He worked as a speech writer for Army Chief Edi Sudrajat and briefly as his staff coordinator when Sudrajat became Armed Forces Commander in February 1993. Sudrajat intervened to select Yudhoyono as commander of the Jakarta-based Kostrad 17th Infantry Brigade, the Army’s most prestigious brigade-level unit, succeeding presidential son-in-law Prabowo Subianto. Yudhoyono advanced rapidly through a series of key postings. He was operations assistant in the Jakarta Command in 1994-1995 and spent a few months as Yogyakarta Resort Commander, where he established contacts with academics, student activists, journalists and civil society groups.

Yudhoyono earned his first star during 1994 during a one-year posting as Chief Military Observer with UN Forces in Bosnia. He was chief of staff in the Jakarta Command during the July 1996 assault on PDI headquarters, South Sumatra Sriwijaya Regional Commander from August 1996 to August 1997, Armed Forces Assistant for Social and Political Affairs from August 1997 to March 1998, and then Chief of Staff for Social and Political Affairs (Kasospol) – later re-designated Chief of Staff for Territorial Affairs (Kaster) – from March 1998 to November 1999, throughout the period of repressive operations in East Timor and the Maluku civil war. He went from lieutenant colonel to lieutenant general in five years.

Yudhoyono participated in military training in the U.S. on three occasions: an English language course at the Defense Language Institute, U.S. Army Airborne and Ranger training at Fort Benning in 1975-1976; the Infantry Officer Advanced Course at Fort Benning, Jungle Warfare School in Panama and on-the-job training with 82nd Airborne Division at Fort Bragg in 1982-1983; and Command and General Staff College in 1990-1991. The bright, friendly, polite officer made friends easily and stayed in contact with classmates for years after returning to Indonesia. In the mid-1980s, he participated in anti-tank weapons training in Belgium and West Germany, and attended a battalion commander course with the Royal Malaysian Army.

Fellow 1973 academy classmate Agus Wirahadikusumah (former Vice President General Umar Wirahadikusumah’s nephew), Agus Widjojo (a 1971 academy graduate and 1965 martyr Major General Sutoyo Siswomihardjo’s son) and Yudhoyono were sometimes called “The Three Musketeers” – rising stars and leading army thinkers committed to a “New Paradigm” emphasizing greater military professionalism and less political involvement. While serving as a lecturer at Seskoad, Yudhoyono and Wirahadikusumah published a pro-reform book entitled “The Challenges of Development.”[2] Later, after Soeharto resigned, Wirahadikusumah had a falling out with Yudhoyono and Agus Widjojo over the path of military reforms. The Sundanese Wirahadikusumah was outspoken, openly challenging ABRI Commander Wiranto – a taboo within the intensely hierarchical military organization, not to mention polite Javanese society. The more conventional Yudhoyono and Widjojo chose to work within the system to promote gradual change.

Yudhoyono, Widjojo and many officers were exasperated because President Abdurrahman Wahid chose to favor Agus Wirahadikusumah. The story ended tragically. Wirahadikusumah was sacked from Kostrad in August 2000 after Wahid lost political support. Ostracized and under huge stress, Wirahadikusumah suffered a heart attack and died in July 2001, just one week after Megawati was installed as president. Yudhoyono and Agus Widjojo remained friends, military and political allies. Both aspired to become Army Chief and both were bitterly disappointed at being passed over for that post. When Yudhoyono was elected president, Agus Widjojo was again unhappy because he did not receive a cabinet post or government appointment, apparently due to opposition from TNI Commander Sutarto and other “security first” generals.[3]

Yudhoyono’s record was relatively unblemished by human rights problems. As a young officer, he rotated through East Timor twice in the late-1970s and commanded the organic Timorese Battalion 744 for a short period in 1986. According to his official biography, Yudhoyono ended the practice of summarily executing captured Falintil rebels. As chief of staff in the Jakarta Command, he claimed to be only peripherally involved in the July 1996 assault on PDI headquarters, although others dispute that assertion, suggesting he was more directly involved in the operation but “just following orders” from his boss, Major General Sutiyoso.

As Chief of Staff for Social-Political Affairs and principal author of the New Paradigm, Yudhoyono was frequently in the spotlight during the immediate post-Soeharto period, acting as General Wiranto’s de facto spokesman during 1998 and early-1999. A reluctant loyalist, he privately objected to the militia-based pro-integration campaign in East Timor but, only when pressed, halfheartedly defended TNI policies in East Timor and Maluku, in the process antagonizing both Wiranto and Agus Wirahadikusumah. Yudhoyono bit his tongue at least partly because he aspired to become army chief. He was heartbroken when pushed into the Wahid Cabinet as Mines and Energy Minister. Yudhoyono was forced to retire from the Army although Wahid later granted him an honorary fourth star as a consolation.

Some suggest Wiranto set Yudhoyono up for failure in the notoriously corrupt Mines and Energy Ministry, but the hard-working general succeeded in an unfamiliar job and advanced to become Coordinating Minister for Political and Security Affairs under Presidents Wahid and Megawati. He was caught between Wahid and military leaders on several issues, including Aceh and Maluku – where TNI wanted martial law and a “legal umbrella” to take repressive measures – but particularly with respect to Wahid’s meddling in internal military affairs. Fellow generals did not feel Yudhoyono was forceful enough in pushing their agenda. That dynamic created tensions between Yudhoyono and Generals Wiranto, Sutarto and Ryamizard. Ironically, Wiranto helped launch his subordinate’s political career. The two generals were rivals in 2004 election campaign, their superior-subordinate relationship finally ended.

Bambang Yudhoyono was a secular-nationalist and marginal Muslim with a Javanese abangan background. Like others, during the 1990s he adopted the trappings of Islam, mostly for appearance. He projected himself as a devout Muslim and, after leaving the Army, sought support from the modernist community. Perhaps not apparent on the surface, the cosmopolitan and westernized Yudhoyono was influenced by Javanese mystical beliefs. Former TNI Commander General Endriartono Sutarto related a story from the late-1970s, when he and Yudhoyono were serving as Kostrad platoon leaders in East Timor. Their platoons were based on adjacent hilltops. After observing insurgent activity in the area, Sutarto proposed a joint operation against the rebels. Sutarto was surprised when Yudhoyono answered, “It is not a good day” according to the Javanese calendar (primbon).[4] It is not a new story. Such superstitious beliefs have influenced military operations many times throughout the Army’s history.[5]

General Sutarto compared Yudhoyono to Sukarno, Soeharto, Abdurrahman Wahid and Megawati Sukarnoputri, all national leaders who maintained an irrational belief in Javanese mysticism. Yudhoyono’s superstitious beliefs were fueled by his wife, Ibu Ani, and mother-in-law, Ibu Sarwo Edhie (Sunarti Sri Hadiyah), both deeply immersed in kejawen mystical practices. Just as many thought Ibu Tien was the source for Soeharto’s pulung (divine calling), some felt Ibu Ani was the channel that passed Sarwo Edhie’s pulung to Bambang Yudhoyono. Madam Sunarti and family members believed he had inherited Sarwo Edhie’s mantle and had claimed his unfulfilled destiny.Sunarti pressed the scholarly, naturally cautious Yudhoyono to take action, most notably convincing him to resign from Megawati’s cabinet to run against her in the 2004 elections.[6] With Sunarti’s encouragement, during the campaign, Yudhoyono sought guidance from a trusted dukun (shaman) to commune with the spirits on sacred Mount Lawu in East Java.[7]

Known in the media as “the thinking general,” Yudhoyono was admired for his intellect but never especially popular. After he moved into the Wahid cabinet in late-1999, some mockingly referred to him as “the language teacher” because of his exceedingly refined speech-making, always in proper Bahasa Indonesia. Like his father-in-law, Sarwo Edhie, another enthusiastic kejawen adherent, Yudhoyono went to great lengths to minimize his “Javanese-ness,” ostensibly to avoid alienating ethnic minorities. Both Sarwo Edhie and Yudhoyono consciously avoided Javanese terms and even spoke Indonesian at home rather than their native Javanese.[8]

Actually, Bambang Yudhoyono was more like Abdul Haris Nasution than the charismatic, action-oriented Sarwo Edhie. Like Nasution, Yudhoyono was a cautious micro-manager. He was quiet, polite, a good listener and avid reader, analytical, comfortable speaking English, and exhibited a fondness for PowerPoint charts, reinforced by his year at the U.S. Army staff college. He was accomplished and principled but at times indecisive and lacked the charisma to inspire loyalty among subordinates. Unlike either Soeharto or Sarwo Edhie, he did not have the ruthless character traits necessary to employ the repressive security approach.

Unlike most officers, Yudhoyono had a global perspective. He displayed no sympathy for militant Islam and recognized domestic terrorism to be a serious threat. From the start, he favored friendly relations with the West, but moved cautiously since, by then, anti-American sentiments were the highest since the Sukarno era. Yudhoyono had a Javanese tendency to try to make everyone happy and, as a result, sometimes took inconsistent positions. He disliked confrontational situations. Unlike Megawati, Yudhoyono was a good communicator, even though he tended to be a bit stiff and formal. He used the mass media to socialize policies. Longtime associates complained Yudhoyono had forgotten them when he entered the Palace. They found it especially irksome the new President discontinued the practice of inviting retired flag officers of three stars and above to attend the August 17 Independence Day ceremony at the Palace.[9]

Bambang Yudhoyono rarely spoke about his family. Like Soeharto, he apparently felt insecure because of his common background. His father was an army noncommissioned officer, while his father-in-law was a famous general. Yudhoyono’s mother and father had separated while he was young; his father had died long before he was elected president. Almost nothing is known about his birth mother. She was rumored to have been a member of the communist women’s movement (Gerwani) in Pacitan, her fate unknown. Yudhoyono was estranged from his ailing stepmother, Siti Habibah. Confined to a wheelchair, he brought her to live at his Cikeas family estate, just east of Bogor, before his second term.[10]

Yudhoyono usually deferred to his wife, Ani; as President he consulted her and her mother, Madam Sunarti, before important decisions. Nepotism was apparent early on. Yudhoyono’s brother-in-law, Erwin Sudjono, was awarded three stars in prestigious posts as Kostrad Commander and TNI Chief of General Staff before retiring in December 2007. The President intervened to install Sarwo Edhie Wibowo’s only son, Pramono Edhie Wibowo, as Deputy Kopassus Commander in March 2005, the first officer from his 1980 academy class to earn a star. With the President’s patronage, Pramono moved up quickly as Kopassus Commander in July 2008, West Java Siliwangi Commander in December 2009, Kostrad Commander in September 2010 and Army Chief in June 2011. Ibu Sarwo Edhie also pressed Yudhoyono to find a spot for his other brother-in-law, retired Colonel Hadi Utomo. Consequently, the President made Utomo the Democrat Party Chairman despite his lack of experience or organizational skills.[11]

From a western perspective, Yudhoyono might be seen as corrupt, at least with respect to money raising activities for the election campaign, a practice generally accepted and expected. With backing from General Edi Sudrajat, army-backed Chinese-Indonesian entrepreneur Tommy Winata and his business associates made significant contributions to the Yudhoyono campaign. He accepted the money even though members of his own success team called Winata “the black hand.” In an apparent quid pro quo, Yudhoyono appointed Tommy Winata’s business associate, Yusuf Anwar, as his Finance Minister. While Anwar was serving as secretary general in the Finance Ministry under Soeharto, he had helped Winata obtain a lucrative partnership in the Borobodur Hotel property in Central Jakarta.

Despite those complications, Yudhoyono pledged to crack down on corruption, collusion and nepotism (KKN). Perhaps prudently, he declined to re-open the big New Order corruption cases, including those involving Soeharto family members and cronies. The corruption cases prosecuted during his first term were more symbolic than significant, hardly recouping enough funds to justify the effort.[12] In truth, Yudhoyono’s presidency suffered from its share of corruption and scandals, problems that seriously handicapped his second term.


[2] S.B. Yudhoyono and Agus Wirahadikusumah, Tantangan Pembangunan (Bandung: Forum Pengkajian Seskoad, 1993).

[3] Agus Widjojo busied himself as a senior fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), a board member at the National Resilience Institute (Lemhannas) and visiting senior fellow at the Institute of Defence and Strategic Studies in Singapore. He served as a member on the Indonesia-Timor Leste Joint Truth and Friendship Commission. Finally in 2007, after General Sutarto retired, President Yudhoyono made Agus Widjojo deputy chair for the Presidential Working Unit for the Management of the National Reform Program (Unit Kerja Presiden untuk Pengelolaan Program Reformasi, UKP3R).

[4] Interview with General Endriartono Sutarto, October 26, 2009.

[5] See Britton, Profesionalisme dan Ideologi Militer Indonesia, p. 164.

[6] Confidential interview, April 2007.

[7] Confidential interview, October 18, 2009.

[8] Confidential interview, April 2007.

[9] Confidential interview, November 10, 2009.

[10] Ibid.

[11] Democrat Party political chief Anas Urbaningrum succeeded Hadi Utomo in May 2010. Urbaningrum was later forced to resign after indicted for accepting bribes.

[12] Confidential interview, March 2006.


  1. 12-3-2014

    I have been browsing online more than 2 hours today, yet I never found any interesting article like yours.
    It is pretty worth enough for me. In my opinion, if all site owners and bloggers made
    good content as you did, the internet will be a lot more useful
    than ever before.|
    I couldn’t refrain from commenting. Perfectly written!|
    I’ll immediately take hold of your rss feed as I can’t find your e-mail subscription hyperlink or newsletter service.

    Do you’ve any? Kindly permit me realize in order that I may just subscribe.
    It’s appropriate time to make some plans for the future and it’s time to be
    happy. I’ve read this post and if I could I desire
    to suggest you some interesting things or advice.
    Maybe you could write next articles referring to this article.
    I wish to read more things about it!|
    It is perfect time to make a few plans for the longer term and it’s time to be
    happy. I’ve read this publish and if I could I wish to suggest you few
    attention-grabbing issues or advice. Perhaps you can write next articles referring to this article.
    I desire to learn more things approximately it!|
    I have been surfing online more than three hours lately, but I never found any fascinating article like yours.
    It’s pretty worth enough for me. In my opinion, if all web owners and bloggers made excellent content
    material as you probably did, the internet might be a lot more helpful than ever before.|
    Ahaa, its pleasant dialogue on the topic of this post here at this weblog, I have read all that, so at this time
    me also commenting at this place.|
    I am sure this paragraph has touched all the internet visitors, its really really nice article on building up new weblog.|
    Wow, this paragraph is good, my sister is analyzing such things, therefore I am going to convey her.|
    Saved as a favorite, I like your website!|
    Way cool! Some very valid points! I appreciate you
    penning this article and the rest of the site is also very good.|
    Hi, I do think this is an excellent web site. I stumbledupon it 😉 I may come back once again since I
    saved as a favorite it. Money and freedom is the greatest way
    to change, may you be rich and continue to help other people.|
    Woah! I’m really loving the template/theme of this site.
    It’s simple, yet effective. A lot of times it’s very difficult to get
    that “perfect balance” between usability and visual appearance.
    I must say you’ve done a very good job with this.
    Also, the blog loads very quick for me on Opera. Superb Blog!|
    These are actually fantastic ideas in on the topic of blogging.
    You have touched some fastidious factors here. Any way keep up wrinting.|
    I enjoy what you guys tend to be up too. This sort of
    clever work and coverage! Keep up the wonderful
    works guys I’ve added you guys to my own blogroll.|
    Hey there! Someone in my Myspace group shared this website with
    us so I came to give it a look. I’m definitely enjoying the information. I’m bookmarking and will be
    tweeting this to my followers! Exceptional blog and superb
    I enjoy what you guys are usually up too. Such clever work and coverage!
    Keep up the great works guys I’ve included you guys to
    my own blogroll.|
    Hello would you mind stating which blog platform you’re using?
    I’m going to start my own blog in the near future but I’m having a tough time selecting
    between BlogEngine/Wordpress/B2evolution and Drupal.
    The reason I ask is because your layout seems different then most blogs and I’m looking for something unique.

    P.S Sorry for getting off-topic but I had to ask!|
    Hey would you mind letting me know which webhost you’re utilizing?

    I’ve loaded your blog in 3 completely different browsers and
    I must say this blog loads a lot faster then most.
    Can you recommend a good hosting provider at a fair price?
    Cheers, I appreciate it!|
    I love it when individuals get together and share
    opinions. Great site, keep it up!|
    Thank you for the good writeup. It in fact was a amusement account it.
    Look advanced to more added agreeable from you! However, how can we communicate?|
    Hi there just wanted to give you a quick heads up. The words in your post seem to be running off the screen in Chrome.
    I’m not sure if this is a formatting issue or something to do with web browser compatibility but I thought I’d
    post to let you know. The design and style look great though!
    Hope you get the problem solved soon. Kudos|
    This is a topic that is close to my heart… Take care!
    Where are your contact details though?|
    It’s very simple to find out any topic on web as compared to textbooks,
    as I found this article at this website.|
    Does your site have a contact page? I’m having a tough time locating
    it but, I’d like to send you an e-mail. I’ve got some creative ideas for your blog you might be interested in hearing.

    Either way, great site and I look forward to
    seeing it improve over time.|
    Hi! I’ve been reading your weblog for a long time now and finally got the courage to go ahead and give
    you a shout out from Humble Texas! Just wanted to mention keep up the good work!|
    Greetings from Los angeles! I’m bored to tears at work
    so I decided to browse your site on my iphone during lunch break.
    I really like the knowledge you present here and can’t wait to take a look when I get home.
    I’m surprised at how quick your blog loaded on my phone ..
    I’m not even using WIFI, just 3G .. Anyhow, good blog!|
    Its such as you read my mind! You seem to grasp so much approximately this, like you wrote the ebook
    in it or something. I believe that you could do with some p.c.
    to pressure the message home a little bit, but instead of that, this is wonderful blog.

    An excellent read. I will definitely be back.|
    I visited several blogs except the audio quality for audio songs present at this web page is truly marvelous.|
    Hello, i read your blog occasionally and i own a similar one and
    i was just wondering if you get a lot of
    spam responses? If so how do you reduce it, any plugin or anything you can suggest?
    I get so much lately it’s driving me insane so any help is very much appreciated.|
    Greetings! Very useful advice within this post! It is the
    little changes that will make the most significant changes.
    Thanks for sharing!|
    I seriously love your blog.. Pleasant colors & theme.

    Did you make this amazing site yourself? Please reply back as I’m planning to create my own blog
    and would like to know where you got this from or exactly what the theme is named.
    Howdy! This post could not be written any better!
    Going through this post reminds me of my previous roommate!
    He continually kept talking about this. I will forward this article to him.
    Pretty sure he will have a very good read. Thank you
    for sharing!|
    Whoa! This blog looks exactly like my old one!

    It’s on a entirely different subject but it has pretty much
    the same layout and design. Great choice of colors!|
    There’s definately a great deal to know about this
    subject. I like all of the points you made.|
    You have made some really good points there. I checked on the net
    for additional information about the issue and
    found most individuals will go along with your views on this
    Hi there, I read your new stuff like every week. Your writing style is awesome, keep doing what you’re doing!|
    I just could not leave your site prior to suggesting that I actually enjoyed the standard information a person supply for your guests?
    Is gonna be back steadily to check out new posts|
    I needed to thank you for this excellent read!! I absolutely enjoyed every bit of it.
    I have got you book-marked to check out new stuff you post…|
    What’s up, just wanted to tell you, I liked this article.
    It was inspiring. Keep on posting!|
    Hi there, I enjoy reading all of your post. I wanted to write a little comment to support you.|
    I always spent my half an hour to read this weblog’s articles or reviews all the time along with a cup of coffee.|
    I always emailed this blog post page to all my contacts,
    because if like to read it next my links will too.|
    My programmer is trying to convince me to move to
    .net from PHP. I have always disliked the idea because of the costs.
    But he’s tryiong none the less. I’ve been using Movable-type on a number of websites for
    about a year and am nervous about switching to another platform.
    I have heard good things about

    Is there a way I can import all my wordpress content into
    it? Any help would be really appreciated!|
    Hello! I could have sworn I’ve been to your blog before but after looking at some of
    the articles I realized it’s new to me. Nonetheless, I’m certainly
    delighted I found it and I’ll be bookmarking it and checking
    back frequently!|
    Terrific article! That is the type of info that are meant to be shared across the net.
    Disgrace on Google for no longer positioning this submit upper!

    Come on over and consult with my web site . Thanks =)|
    Heya i’m for the first time here. I found this board and I find It really useful & it helped me out much.
    I hope to give something back and aid others like you helped me.|
    Hello, I do think your website could possibly be having internet
    browser compatibility problems. Whenever I take a look at your web site in Safari, it looks fine however,
    when opening in IE, it has some overlapping issues. I simply wanted to provide you with a quick heads up!
    Other than that, fantastic site!|
    A person necessarily help to make seriously posts I would state.
    That is the very first time I frequented your website page and
    so far? I surprised with the research you made to create this particular submit amazing.
    Great process!|
    Heya i am for the primary time here. I found this board and I to find It truly helpful & it helped me out a
    lot. I’m hoping to offer one thing again and help others like
    you aided me.|
    Good day! I just wish to offer you a huge thumbs up for your excellent info you have got right here on this post.
    I’ll be coming back to your blog for more soon.|
    I all the time used to read paragraph in news papers but now as I am a user of web thus from now I am using net for articles
    or reviews, thanks to web.|
    Your mode of telling everything in this post is genuinely pleasant, all can easily be aware of
    it, Thanks a lot.|
    Hi there, I found your blog by means of Google whilst searching for a related subject, your site came up, it seems to be great.
    I’ve bookmarked it in my google bookmarks.
    Hi there, just was alert to your blog through Google, and found that it’s really informative.
    I am gonna watch out for brussels. I will appreciate should you continue
    this in future. Numerous people will probably be benefited out of
    your writing. Cheers!|
    I’m curious to find out what blog platform you happen to
    be working with? I’m experiencing some small security issues with
    my latest site and I’d like to find something more secure.
    Do you have any recommendations?|
    I’m extremely impressed with your writing skills and also with the layout on your weblog.
    Is this a paid theme or did you modify it yourself?
    Either way keep up the excellent quality writing, it’s rare to see a nice blog like this one nowadays.|
    I’m really inspired along with your writing abilities as neatly as with the structure in your weblog.
    Is that this a paid subject or did you customize it yourself?
    Either way stay up the excellent high quality writing, it’s uncommon to look a nice blog like this one nowadays..|
    Hello, Neat post. There is a problem with your web site in web explorer,
    could test this? IE still is the market leader and a large component to other folks will pass over your wonderful
    writing because of this problem.|
    I am not sure where you are getting your info, but great topic.

    I needs to spend some time learning more or understanding more.

    Thanks for magnificent information I was looking for this
    info for my mission.|
    Hi, i think that i saw you visited my blog thus i came to “return the favor”.I’m attempting to find things to enhance my site!I
    suppose its ok to use some of your ideas!!

    My page finance news (Rodrick)

  2. 10-15-2018

    Hello my family member! I wish to say that this artficle is amazing, nice written and come with almost all important infos.
    I’d like to peer extra posts like this .

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *